Young Slime Life judge releases transcript of secret meeting with prosecutors, witness

“He could be in there a while, let’s put it that way,” Glanville told Bumpus, according to the transcript.

The judge said Copeland could return home that evening by agreeing to testify.

“He has the keys to his own freedom,” Glanville told the attorney, according to the transcript.

Bumpus told them there was a chance that Melnick would no longer represent Copeland if he agreed to testify.

Love and Glanville told Bumpus that she might have to stay until Copeland’s testimony was over, which they acknowledged wasn’t fair to her because she was just standing in for the other attorney.

“Ultimately, it seems as if Mr. Melnick is stalling and attempting to delay and hamper and hinder our proceedings, and that is a problem because that has nothing to do with the best interest of Kenneth Copeland, and that has nothing to do with Kenneth Copeland’s exposure, if he testifies,” Love said.

Bumpus clarified that Copeland might be worried about testifying for other reasons, including his personal safety.

“We ain’t gonna kill him ... We’re not going to kill Kenneth Copeland,” Love said, in response to the concerns raised about his safety.

Glanville said that Copeland getting hurt could be “a collateral second and third-order effect,” according to the transcript. “Let’s pray it doesn’t happen, but ... first he has to give testimony,” the judge said.

Nearly an hour into the meeting, Copeland was brought into chambers and Glanville told him they wanted to give him the chance to ask questions and clear up any confusion before he was brought out to testify.

Copeland told the judge he “had never been truthful a day in his life” and said he didn’t understand everything that was happening. ADA Simone Hylton told Copeland that he was immune from any prosecution based on his testimony, according to the transcript.

She also said that if Copeland feared for his safety, there were things the state could do to protect him. But she said prosecutors did not want him behind bars during his testimony.

But she said if he continued to plead the Fifth, he could remain in jail until the case was over. Glanville told Copeland he would have been allowed to plead the Fifth had the state not offered him immunity.

“What the state decided is they said your testimony is worth more to them at this point in time and they really want to know what you have to say,” Glanville said.

The meeting ended with a discussion about Copeland’s wardrobe. At the time, he was wearing a jail-issued jumpsuit, which Copeland said he wanted to wear in front of the jury.

“Y’all don’t want to show the people how you all did me?” he asked. “I prefer to go in like this.”

He testified that day wearing his jail clothes.